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Fake art by Natmorley!

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 5:02 AM
Hi my friends! :wave:



Yep, another Journal about :iconnatmorley:



This is not meant to start a witchhunt, immature harrassment on her profile won't help anything!



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Regarding her latest Journal, I asked some questions. I wonder if she'll answer any of them... Of course, she didn't answer them :facepalm:



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:bulletblack: So, what's the fuss about her?

Her drawings are fake, simply as that.



:bulletblack: How could you tell?

She makes a scribbly drawing and overlays the original photo in PS to make the shading, hair etc. look better. (OR she prints out the photo and scribbles over it, whatsoever...)

You can always make out some "ghosty shadows" in her works, these are the remainings of the original photo that she just couldn't hide properly.



:bulletblack: Is there any proof?

Here's a older drawing of her (which she already deleted ;) ) where you can clearly see the overlaying, especially at the wristwatch, ring and fingers.



Also on her newest drawings are some hairstrands and also shadings that fit too perfect (have a look at the background in the upper left too)



:bulletblack: But there are a lot of artists drawing that realitic!

I agree, but Nat's drawings are just perfect in proportions and when I say perfect, I mean absolutely identical to the photo!

There are hardly any artists that are able to draw like that. And in this Interview she states, that it takes her about 3(!) hours to finish a drawing! Any pencilartist will tell you that it takes hours to do just the pre-sketch of a drawing!



:bulletblack: But she uploaded WIPs and a livestream?!

First of all, if she's able to fake a whole drawing, why on earth shouldn't she be able to do the same with WIPs?

And for the livestream... see for yourself:









:bulletblack: Are there other thing curious about her?

Yes, indeed! Lets have a look on her stats natmorley.deviantart.com/stats… Natmorley watches 1 people, while 2,235 people watch natmorley.

But why? She watches people, so they'll watch her in return... after they do, she unwatches them again.

Also there are a lot of drawings she deletet on DA, even though they looked "good". Well when too many people got suspicious about one drawing, she just deletes it to stop the discussion. Here can you see more of her "work" www.flickr.com/photos/herronat… .

Also she doesn't answer any comments, except that ones who put her drawings in question. If you ask her if they are fake she'll hide your comment and block you. Recently there was a deviant just asking whether she could deny or confirm those rumours about her... she hid the comment without answering. Why would anyone do that if their work was legit?

Also she just blocked a deviant, though he didn't say anything at all to her! Maybe she just saw him commenting on another journal, but blocking for that reason?!

:thumb265306060: On that drawing she says: "Please ignore the stupid scan lines across the centre, it's a huge piece and had to be pieced together. I've tried to remove them the best I can."



But the Camera Data says something different:



Camera Data
Make:Canon
Model:Canon EOS 450D
Shutter Speed:1/3 second
Aperture:F/4.0
Focal Length:28 mm
ISO Speed:800
Date Taken: Oct 25, 2011, 10:55:12 PM
Lens:EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Software:Microsoft Windows Photo Gallery 6.0.6001.18000
Sensor Size:12mm



Aha, she scans her drawing with a Canon camera... weird, isn't it?!



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:bulletblack: So what?! Why even care?

Because there are a lot of young artists around seeing her work, seeing how "awesome she is for for her age" (she said that literally!) and they'll be frustratet, because they are, due to obvious reasons, not that good.

What if you found out that your idol, your inspiration is cheating and lying all the time? Wouldn't you want to know?

Also it's just like a slap into the face for every real artist, that she gains so much attention! Though it's no wonder she hits the frontpage, if she's submitting her drawings to 200-300 groups...



:bulletblack: You are just a hater, get a life!

No, I'm not a hater, why should I hate anyone? Why should I accuse anyone who's art is legit? I have no need to be jealous, my art is real and good, I have enough watchers myself, not just watchers but also friends! I give favs, I watch people, I suggest DDs, I received one mysself... so why should I be jealous?

And I have a life. Art is a great part of my life. I love to do art myself and I appreciate others (honest) art a lot! So I do care if someone claims drawings, that they didn't really made!



:bulletblack: I still don't believe you!

That's okay, I can't make you believe anything, I#m just trying to spread the news and I'm not interested to convert blind believers...

Just ask yourself:

Did she ever respond to your comments on her drawings?

Did she ever thank you for the fav?

Did she thank you for watching?

Did she add anything to her favs, except those drawings of herself?

Did she add you to her watch? Does she still watch you?  natmorley.deviantart.com/stats… and natmorley.deviantart.com/myfri…

Why does she hide nearly every comment on her profile, even if they are not harrassing in any way, just asking politely?

Why should someone legit suddenly disable commenting on their drawings, if they even don't care to respond to them at all?



Just have a look at this and you'll understand how it is possible to do those fakes, even if she gave one to you personally!

How to fake art - The Tutorial! by acjub



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:bulletblack: Here are some interesting Journals and links!



:thumb324305524: Fakers and LosersA while ago, :iconpbird12: a.k.a Paula wrote an article

which states clear cut facts so as to why the whole issue about someone faking their art creates rage waves through the art community!
The last week has been a riot which ended up in me getting blocked by two deviants here who clearly have something to hide!
I obviously care much less about the fact that there are many artists here on dA who get more famous than others considering the skill work. Some people get lucky and some don't. It's not easy getting known around this site.
But the fact that people would want to fake art to get accolades makes me angrier than ever.
Here are two examples on what happens when you try to confront artists whom you are suspicious about!
Example 1- The "awesome":iconnatmorley:

Now now Bratnorley) , you don't need to get all worked up for a single comment there do you?
You obviously think we are all stupid people here who don't really see what you are doing? The scr
:thumb325039082: :thumb324530959: Opinions on the fake NatMorleyYes I'm posting a journal as well.
This is about the ever so famous natmorley
This journal is not really meant as proof of anything, only opinions on the matter.
You may have seen her drawings somewhere on this site, and maybe you are a fan. A good number of pencil artists, me included, believe them all to be utter rubbish. Fake rubbish that is.
Now why on earth would you say such a thing?
Well let's have a look at them, shall we?
First of all they all match the reference 100%. Even tracing won't do that for you. Also the drawing looks to be perfect and smooth underneath, and then she's scribbled on top as I there was no tomorrow. I would say that is a bit curious. Why make a perfect drawing only to ruin it with scribbling?
That's her style you might say. Well lets then look at what she says about her drawings. Oh she uses about 5 hours on a portrait. Trust me, if the drawing is perfect (minus the ugly scribbling on top) then you'd use a LOT more than 5 hours.
So
Fake art - why care and what to look forI posted this last week for anyone looking for help to spot fake art.  This is not law, if you don't care, feel free to move on.  But if you do care that there are fakers out there, then maybe this could be of some use to you too.  We have a serial faker on the loose on dA today so it sparked this little lot once more.  
So, the questions/scenarios asked are always the same and the responses/justifications are always the same, but give them a minute to sink in before replying and insulting.
(Q1) Why do you care if someone is cheating what does it have to do with you?
(A1) Well, this is a public ART site and if people are submitting art that is not actually what they claim it to be, then they are dishonest. This will annoy some people and not others. If your passionate about your work then the chances are you'll find it insulting to the artistic community as a whole. Additionally, a lot of admins of groups HAVE to deal with fakes as a daily occure
REPORT NAT, SHE CHEATSHello my dear dear dear friends :rose:
So, I saw this, and I realized why would people doubt my art (and many others')... BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THIS GIRL MAKE US DOUBT ANYTHING!
Her name is Nat Morley> :iconnatmorley: and she's a fake.
How does she make... 'art'? I'll make this simple:
1. She does a lousy sketch by tracing...
2. Takes a Photo/Scans it
3. Puts in in Photoshop
4. Puts the reference photo under the sketch
5. Makes the photo lighter, and then paler... and TADAAA! SHE HAS A PHOTO UNDER A SKETCH THAT LOOKS LIKE A COMPLETE AMAZING DRAWING!
ORRRRR.....
AN EASIER WAY! SEE:

> She gets loads and loads of Watchers because she adds them first... then guess what? SHE UNWATCHES THEM AS SOON AS THEY WATCH HER!!!
> She faves their works, and the UNFAVES their works after they come to say thank you, see her FAKE art and start Watching her...
> SHE HAS DISABLED ALL THE COMMENTS AND NOW SHE WATCHES A FEW OF THE dA STAFF MEMBERS TO SAVE HERSELF... :facepalm:
MAKE SURE YOU


spotyourfail.blogspot.co.uk/20…

www.use.com/showorig.pl?set=b0…

spotyourfail.blogspot.co.uk/20…

natmorleyisfake.blogspot.co.at…



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:iconpurstotahti:
purstotahti Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Professional General Artist
Cheaters cheat themselves. Honestly, a realistic portrait in 3 hours?  :? (Confused) 
Hackers like these take living from those starving artist who work their asses off. :-X (Mad) 
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emmagucci Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I've mentioned this journal in my latest one fav.me/d7drkc8 Please,tell me that you think about it.
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:iconfantasyboudicca:
FantasyBoudicca Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know people who have no qualms about cheating when it comes to art, but they have enough sense to not get caught or act defensive.

At least they claim to spend a minimum of a month's worth of work on a piece - 2-3 hours a day over 30+ days, so it's somewhat/mostly plausible, and it isn't obvious that they used Photoshop. If you have to do something unscrupulous, don't get freakin' caught by random people on the internet, and have the decency to admit that yes, it was faked eventually.
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:iconlittle-roisin:
Little-Roisin Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
www.facebook.com/samanimemanga… uses the same method... so lame....
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:icondvcomk:
dvcomk Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
what do you think about this guy?
fabianomillani.deviantart.com/…
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:iconnatzyr:
Natzyr Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student General Artist
Please read about cris ortega's plagirism! [link]
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:iconkatielikesbacon:
KatieLikesBacon Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
ALRIGHT. she is actually just that talented. im not a massive fan of her and im not doing this cause i like her, I go to the highschool she went to, and in the art room her drawings are ALL on the walls, they are clearly real, and amazing.
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secretmangaka Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
And now she's deactivated her account!
deviantART muro drawing Comment Drawing
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:icontriplexbeatz:
TripleXbeatz Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
[link]

NAT MORELY EXPOSED
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She blocked me on the facebook today, because I posted the link to this journal on her timeline. :lol:
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:iconthegraphitebender:
thegraphitebender Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Whoa. Let me just say I'm 17 and draw realism. I spend days-weeks on one drawing and mine are never tht good. I cnt belive she lied bout her talents. Thts a bitch ass move. Its taken me years to get to where I am and I'm not nearly as amazing as you guys:heart: nats so fake.
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:iconmszilvi95:
MSzilvi95 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I spend one hour before the Google translate to understand your journal. She was one of my dav drawers, but now you have right. I write from now in German, because I am better in German than is English.

So, ich denke du hast recht, und ich fühle mich jetzt sehr betrogen (ist das die gute Wort?). Ich liebte ihre Zeichnungen, aber ich sah gestern, sie ist "banned(?)" in dA. Ich suchte ihre Name im Google, und Ich habe Bilden gefunden, wo die Fehlen des Zeichnunges betont sind. Heute habe ich dein Journal unter eine Zeinhnung von Nat gefunden, und ich habe übersetzen. Ich weiß jetzt nicht, was ich sagen kann. Ich bin auch 17 Jahre alt, und ich dachte, neben ihr kann ich mit Bleistift nicht so gut Zeichnen. Das ist ein furchtbares Gefühl, dass das Vorbild von jemand dich trügt. Ich habe früher meiner Familie ihre Zeichnungen gezeigen, und ich habe oft gesagt, ich werde nie so gut Zeichnen, wie sie. Jetzt nur lache ich, wie blöd war ich. Ich werde nie meine Zeichnungen zu anderen ähneln.
Ich kann mir nicht nicht vorstellen, warum macht sie das? Ich denke das ist nicht der besten Weg um berühmt zu sein.
Ich habe Eine von meine "LieblingsKünstler" verloren, aber ich habe eine neue gefunden, deine Zeichnungen gefallen mir sehr.

(Mein Deutsch ist nicht perfekt)
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:iconbassinio:
Bassinio Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi. My name is Portia and I'm from Trinidad in the Caribbean and I do colour pencil portraits. When I saw this, I felt...like if I had been cheated. That someone was taking my work for granted; that they were not conscious of the effort I make when I sit down and work out what I have to do before starting... I am glad you blew the whistle on her. She didn't deserve this praise and worship. We work too god-damned hard as artists, we earn that right to be called an artist. This is awful, and like I am thinking of how hard I try to make my own pieces to look realistic. That obviously means nothing to her.
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Lmomjian Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Her account has been deactivated :-) She either did it herself, or dA did.
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erarosaimmortal21 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
It's fake art? well it is suspicious how she does portraits really quick. Detail does take time.
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KrisiChiki Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student General Artist
All I can say is that....it's just sad.

Thanks for spreading this and making people aware. I'm not really frustrated or angry (even though I should because I put a lot of effort into my art and try to improve) but I feel really sad that some people resolve to this kind of things for the sake of attention and popularity...
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:icona-llonsee:
a-llonsee Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Illeina, you should definitely add some of these photos - [link]
they're golden, truly.
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:icona-llonsee:
a-llonsee Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
oh wait, they've commented, nvm :'D
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:iconazixel:
Azixel Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student General Artist
You know when I first started reading I thought it was unfair.Many artsits trace the outlines before doing a realistic prokect/illustration e.t.c (our illustration teacher told us that). But after reading a bit more and read/watched all the proofs, especially the live stream and the part where she says it takes her 3 hours (!!!!) to complete an image I lost the sightest pitty for her. It just make us who try hard look useless, and also trigger ideas for more fake artists to appear and create copies. It's a shame to us and her fans whom she tricked.
Thanks for your journal and also reported. :heart:
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:iconveritatem:
Veritatem Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student General Artist
D:< what a narcissistic biyatch
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:icona-nat-fan:
A-Nat-Fan Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Hello,
I love Nat to the point of death, so I made this account to thank her... please do check out my page,
AND my Facebook page for her...

[link]

AND SPREAD THE WORD! TELL PEOPLE TO LIKE THAT PAGE! :)

I don't know if you can see my sarcasm hands typing though...
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Omg, I just thought WHY IS THERE SUCH A COMMENT ON THAT JOURNAL?!!??!
Hahah, I just love you! :rofl:
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:icona-nat-fan:
A-Nat-Fan Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
:XD: And I love all the real artists like you; that's why I'm doing this ;) :XD:
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:iconkrypptic:
krypptic Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for spreading awareness... I had no idea people actually do that... 0_0
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:iconglazedunicorns:
GlazedUnicorns Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Wow.
Just wow.
Why the heck would someone do that?!
Things like that anger me.....
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:iconolaf68:
Olaf68 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012   Traditional Artist
Just got to say there are light tables and projectors that she could be using too.


But you do make some good points also.
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:iconpiquantgirl:
piquantgirl Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
fake, everything is fake :D
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:iconcherryblossomgeisha:
CherryBlossomGeisha Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
..wow.. O.o
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:iconmaya-amer:
Maya-amer Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
That was really eye-opening..
I actually almost quit realistic drawing after seeing her work, i thought I'll never be as good as her so lets just stop it now!!
God I feel stupid...
thx for taking the time to explain your point and spreading the word :)
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:iconpringlesaddict99:
pringlesaddict99 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ever heard of :iconrajacenna: ? She's seventeen or eighteen and can make even better art in about 3 to 5 hours.

But I agree, these are some legitimate points you have there, even though I don't think it's "cheating" of any kind until she gets money for her drawings which she doesn't.
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She sells her work on her website.
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:iconpringlesaddict99:
pringlesaddict99 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well... that's not cool
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No, it is not.
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DSteffi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
hmmm, thank you for the info. With all that you covered and I honestly cannot find any loopholes in all you have said, I am gonna go ahead and believe you are right. Damn, and I commented on one of her so-called works that she is awesome. What artists do is create. Not steal. No matter what form of art it is, literature, drawing, photography and what-not, one must strive to work hard and achieve greatness through honesty. There is nothing wrong with using the works of other artists for inspiration, but taking that art and claiming it as your own is plagiarism and downright wrong. *sigh* Lying to people to make them admire you, that is just sad. Thanks for the info, glad to have known it.
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sammyhold Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Digital Artist
cool
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:iconwalaoweihabusai:
WalaoweihAbusai Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
hern duhhhhh u sure ?
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:iconlmomjian:
Lmomjian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think you might actually be right.
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:iconvampirelover5678:
Vampirelover5678 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Hmm very intresting points you point out.
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:iconvarakienen:
VARAKIENEN Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
This again?
Don't people have their Own lives?
Seriously people, get over it and learn to do your Own thing at No one else s expense.
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Dude, it's the same journal, check the date.
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:iconjamasia:
Jamasia Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Photoshopping images and adding pencil is legitimate art. The point is it should not be sold as from-scratch drawing. Someone used the phrase cheating. Do I cheat when I use a tripod with my camera? Would you say that using a grid for hyper-realism is cheating? How about referring back to what you're trying to draw? Cheating? If you don't need to use these legitimate techniques to create your art, if I or anyone else does, does that make our our morally inferior? Are Digital overlays cheating?

I know my drawing skills are not as good as Ileina's, but I'm alright, which is why I don't often post my sketches here. I drew an outline and overlayed the original digitally to compare, then I corrected (by eye) the drawing, and continued. See the result here: [link] It's not fraudulent because I said what I did, but is it a cheat?
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If she had written "scribbled over a photo" then no problem.
Nothing is cheating as long as you admit to it. Heck I use a grid for all my portraits!
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Dandeliesque Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't like cheaters but why the hell make such a fuss about this. She's a poor woman, she yearns to be good at drawing, and yes she faked. But please don't act so silly, those actings could bring a fragile person to a very unreasonable end....Just think about that.
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Dont worry, she's got balls enough to handle this.
What's wrong about telling people the truth? I certainly do not want fake art in my favs. I'd rather give real artists my attention.
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Dandeliesque Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yeah, ok if you say she's strong. And yes I prefer real work as fake, but with people sending works digitally, I mean scan or else, it's very easy to cheat. I think that many people on DA do so. But it won't make me any worse...

See you on DA for more and more faves, and why not yours :D Cheers!
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She's got not problem being rude to people who question her, so I'm pretty sure she sees herself as better than most people on this site.
Yes there are a lot of people who fake on this site, and it's really sad.
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Dandeliesque Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
you know I think that people who show self confidence so much are often fragile persons who hide behind their attitude.
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Then the internet is no place for them. I am not going to worry about some 16-year-old girl's feelings when she behaves like a bi*tch. :shrug:
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Dandeliesque Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah she's rude.
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Faolan98 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
its called hyper realism
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